BOLD Subscriptions

Please GOD can someone help me?!?! Can anyone suggest an alternative app that I can retain these last remaining customers???? I'm DYING to find an alternative to this nightmare of an app. We used Bold v1 for years and everything was fine. Since they forced us to "upgrade" (ha hilarious to call it an upgrade), it has been a NIGHTMARE. I've spent hundreds of hours trying to get the "upgraded" app to work. The "seamless" migration was a fail that I had to fix every single existing subscription manually with custom discount codes & notes. Since then I have had every subscription group duplicate the frequency list over and over... to the point that you would need to scroll for 3 feet to find the end of the frequency list. Thousands of dollars lost, endless customer complaints. Went from 400+ subscribers to now only 68. Most of the orders placed for subscription don't actually create subscriptions. And no way for me to know that we just lost what should have been a recurring customer. Product pages look ridiculous with all the duplicate subscription frequency options. No customer could navigate these. Front end support staff always says they have to escalate to developers, but no way to talk to developers directly. Around 2 weeks after contact I get an email saying everything is "fixed" and what that usually means is I have to start over trying to fix every item from A-Z manually. Can't remove the subscription widget no matter what I do. I've even deleted every subscription group and the damn widget still remains (sometimes duplicated five times over). After getting 3 months free three times over for "frustration"... I have been working on this for over a year... I gave up on even contacting them for credit. My DREAM is to dump them, contact my credit card company to dispute remaining charges (including their "oops.. we may have charged you too much for processing fees for months"... no shit, my processing fees tripled) by explaining their fraud, BUT I have these 68 subscriptions remaining. Can anyone suggest an alternative that I can retain these last remaining customers???? Shopify should have more control over this. This app should not even be an offer on their app market. AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE. THIS APP IS A SCAM. Please, if you have an alternative that I can migrate over to please let me know. This experience has brought me to the point of considering ending the online side of my business just to end this nightmare.

TL;DR This app charges WAY more for WAY less functionality

We have been using the BOLD Subscription app for over 9 years and I have been incredibly disappointed in the transition from v1 to this version of the app.

The new version of the app is missing several key features that were included in v1:
*No customer activity notification: in v1 we would get an email if a customer changed or canceled their subscription order, keeping our customer service team in the loop.
*No confirmation to the customer if they change or cancel their order. There are email confirmations when a subscriber starts a new subscription or there is a payment issue, so I don't know why they didn't include options for editing or canceling a subscription.
*In v1 customers could define their own subscription interval. Creating multiple variations to match the intervals that our customers are looking would create a very cumbersome list for the customer to have to sort through.
*Flat Rate Shipping only for subscription order. We have subscription customers who use our local pick-up option, guess we won't be getting orders from them anymore!
*Doesn't work with other BOLD apps. One of the main selling points for us almost a decade ago was that we could use the BOLD Subscriptions app with Custom Pricing and Upsells, but according to the BOLD Help Center the apps are no longer compatible.

To add insult to injury our cost for BOLD Subscriptions is projected to 100x (yes, that is a one-hundred times increase!) over the cost we were paying for v1. I thought shrinkflation at the grocery store was bad, but this is ridiculous. We are currently looking at upgrading to Shopify Plus to manage our custom pricing and switching to the Shopify subscription app.

I will say the front-line service team that I have interacted with has always been perfectly pleasant and are probably the best employees in the entire company.

Do not use this app! I have never left a bad review for any app or product in my life, but I feel compelled to save anyone from having to deal with all that we have dealt with in this app. Not only does it continue to have problems, but they have the WORST customer service that I have ever experienced. They do not have any access to a live agents, ever. They have very limited business hours so if you have a major issue, which we have multiple times, you can not get any assistance if it is outside of their M-F central time office hours. Being an app in the eccommerce space, they should realize that these business are 24-7 and should at least attempt to have expanded hours since issues arise over the weekend too. They have shown us multiple times that they do not care that their platform glitches cause a disturbance in your business. That it could cost you customers. They simply don't seem to care. They show no concern about how long it takes them to even answer the support ticket in a timely manner, let alone actually fix the issue in a timely manner. I am always patient when it comes to tech because I realize that stuff happens and errors occur and all of that, but I am telling you. I have had more awful experiences with this app, its service, and its lack of customer service than I have ever experienced and I am so very frustrated. I have resisted changing to a new subscription app because I was worried about migrating to something new, but I should have a long time ago because this app continues to be a nightmare. Please keep looking and save yourself the trouble of dealing with this app. I am certainly moving on!

Bold subscriptions has been a nightmare since we installed it, in their first version (V1) they could never figure out why our taxes were being charged incorrectly after years of problems so we would have to manually fix this for each order.

Now with the new Bold subscription migration they did from V1 they have no idea what they're doing. First they told us groups could have 865 products and it didn't work so they said 650 products and now months later they tell us after the fact it has to be 250 products maximum. There is no way to be notified if you have a new subscription, cancelled subscription or paused subscription. The order notes from checkout aren't carried into the order so those notes do not come through properly. Right now the latest problem is that after subscribing to a product and adding to cart, it's not saying that it's a subscription item so we have no idea if it's working.

Overall terrible experience and the new app is useless, they don't know what they're doing.

DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS APP!!!

If I could give them a 0 I would. Things have worked fine for the last 4 years that I had been using V1.

But the migration to V2 has been a disaster. Today is October 22 and since October 8, when their Tier 2 team got everything 'fixed', customers have been unable to order non-subscription products from my site.

Today's rep told me " the action that needs to be taken must be done by our app developers and they are currently addressing critical and high-priority issues that have emerged in some of our other projects." I'd steer clear!

I wanted to provide feedback regarding the recent migration of my subscription. Unfortunately, the experience has been less than satisfactory. Since the migration, the shipping method and store pickup options haven’t been functioning properly, and this has caused significant inconvenience.

I’ve always appreciated your service in the past, but this transition has been frustrating, and I cannot rate it positively in its current state. If there is anything that can be done to resolve these issues, I’d be happy to discuss further.

If you are a small-medium merchant, DO NOT DO NOT switch to Bold!

My migration from V1 to V2 was horrendous.

On numerous occasions in the past year, entire batches of subscriptions were not processed overnight, for no apparent reason. First tier customer service is not helpful, it feels like they respond from a script. The tendency is always to blame Shopify and to divert inquiries to them. You can’t call a hotline, you can’t get transferred to a supervisor. You just get semi robotic replies in their online chat (that only works during day time business hours). If you are lucky enough to convince them to escalate your complaint to a higher level, you wait 24-48 hours for an email reply.

Most recently, BOLD significantly overcharged me for the 1% transaction fee. I brought this to their attention before it became announced that the issue affected other merchants. After two weeks of waiting for an update, I had to follow up again and was given their wonderful solution. In a nutshell: “We (Bold) made a mistake. You have been charged incorrectly. We are now going to charge you the correct amount. Shopify will refund you the incorrectly charged amount in a few days/weeks”. Unbelievable! No substantial apology, no compensation for the time and effort. I feel like it will now be up to me to chase after Shopify to get my money back for the mistake that BOLD made. For a fintech company, this is absolutely unacceptable.

Take my advice, read the reviews for other apps, and chose one of those. BOLD may go out of their way for the large enterprises, but small businesses get treated like crap. I am going to start working in migrating to an alternative platform asap.

I signed up for Bold to try their product. One of the features they advertised did not work as expected, so the next day I uninstalled their app and requested a refund. They REFUSED to provide a refund and told me I had to wait until the charge went through, paid for their app even though I'm not even using it, and then request a refund. This is crazy.

If you install the Bold app and it doesn't' work for you, be prepared to get ripped off or waste your time in a process designed to rip you off.

DO NOT USE THIS APP.

If you are migrating from Bold v1 to this app because V1 is no longer supported - your experience will be terrible.

Really basic features are missing - the support team gives you attitude and treats you like you are stupid when you ask questions.

NO Build-a-box migration.
NO fixed-term contract options
NO Convertible options for migration.
It is NOT an embedded app, so if you want to change anything, they refer you to the theme code and ask you to change it yourself.

Really simple features are missing, along with all the main features above.

NEW users - STAY AWAY.
MiGRATING users - I wish you good luck.

There is a reason it is the lowest-rated subsciption app on Shopify. BOLD used to be a great company with great apps, but they have dropped the ball on this one.