Growave: Loyalty & Wishlist +

Update: Growave destroyed our code: We deinstalled the App and were wondering, why still all checkboxes regarding data security / newsletter-subscription / etc were not working. After a long search and the help by the Shopify support it came up that Growave totally destroyed our code. This lasts even the deinstallation. E.g. somebody creates an account and is not clicking the checkbox for a subscription he gets pushed into all marketing lists anyway. They know the problem and are not a clue into solving this. We no have to figure out how to handle the situation because this is agains EU law (and worst customer experiance). Thanks for nothing, Growave, thanks for not helping even after I described the issue several times. Never again. Please do not use this app if you like your Homepage. Wir haben furchtbare Erfahrung mit dieser App gemacht: 1. Nach einem Update gingen alle Email-Templates unbemerkt flöten und Kunden bekamen die default-Emails. Z.B. ab einem bestimmten Level hatten wir hinterlegt, dass individuelle Gutscheine mitgeschickt werden, diese waren dann natürlich auch weg. 2. Tiers: Wir haben über Tage ein Tier-Modell aufgestellt. Je höher man kommt, desto mehr Benefits, so kenn man es. Aber leider wurden plötzlich keinerlei Rabatte mehr angewandt. Vom Silber, über Gold, bis zum Platin Kunden, niemand bekam mehr Benefits. Im Kundenfenster wurden zwar generierte Codes angezeigt, aber das haben original 0 von 110 Kund*innen gesehen. Diverse Kunden sind wütend abgesprungen und teilten dies auf SoMe. Das ganze Tier-Modell funktioniert nicht, wenn man mehr als einen Benefit hat (dann braucht man aber kein Tier-Modell). 3. Datenschutz: Ohne Einverständnis der Kunden werden Kundenkonten angelegt. Wir haben uns gewundert, warum wir keine Kunden ohne Bonus-Club Mitgliedschaft mehr fanden und machten den Test: Aus jeder Bestellung wird ein Loyalty Konto angelegt, ohne dass der Kunde es mitbekommt geschweigedenn akzeptiert. Das ist ein Fall für den Datenschutz. Vom Support kamen zwar Antworten, aber keinerlei Hilfe. Ich bat um einen Anruf, weil es brennt. Der frühste Termin nach dem Wochenende. Dann brauchen wir ihn auch nicht mehr. Fazit: Eine furchtbare Erfahrung, die uns Bestandskunden verärgerte, Tage der Einrichtung sind futsch, Der Launchday wurde gecrashed und nun sind wir dabei Kunde für Kunde zu prüfen und ihm manuell Rabatte (die ihm im Rahmen des Programms zugestanden hätten) zu überweisen.

This app USED to be sooo good... and then they "updated". The integrations are so complicated to use now. You can no longer tag similar products for reviews, just honestly, find another app. These guys messed up big time in their "update".

I had the worst experience with this app. And even worse with the customer service. Even though I used app support to set this up. My website was down for 4 days. It was a very expensive fix. How this was handled by growwave… well they lost a customer. Don't recommend it:

I have ran into three major bugs so far. They still have at least one huge bug right now.

1. They had a bug that allowed somebody to share to Facebook over and over with no time delay and generate fraudulent gift cards out of thin air extremely quickly. Somebody ran up probably 750,000 points or so in one evening by doing this on loop. I spent an entire weekend trying to disable the fraudulent accounts and cards.

2. Woke up this morning four months later to see that people are still able to order products that they never paid for, with gift cards that were created out of thin air, that were disabled four months ago. This is a big deal, this was $75,000 created before I realized what was going on, four months later it's still not fixed.

3. There was also another bug that rewarded points for using points which is ridiculous, and it still didn't work right even after the support team pointed out which setting should be used and was updated. I sell high ticket items so for example if somebody bought $10,000 worth of items, they got a $1,000 gift card, but then when they used that gift card, they were rewarded with another $100 gift card, then another $10 for using that one, which is absurd.

Tried to be understanding but if they're not going to take this seriously then everybody else needs to know about potentially huge issues with the app revolving around reward points and gift cards. Ones that you did not sign up for.

To use all their features you need to upgrade and pay even during the trial period you can not use to test all the features, after trial period is over they will charge you $9.99 monthly.

If you're migrating reviews from another platform, do not let Growave do your migration. During the sales demo call, I was cheerfully reassured that they have an expert development team who could do the full migration of my reviews from Yotpo to Growave. Not so. I prepared the csv file according to what I was told but each time their developers tried to import them, customer service would email saying something needed to be changed. The launch of my redesigned site was delayed because we were waiting to get all the old reviews in place. This happened 6 times and each time, it took 2 days to find out it wasn't what they wanted. This cost me almost 2 weeks.

I've migrated from platform to platform before and have had issues, so it was expected to have to alter the csv a couple of times. But it became ridiculous. Despite everything being in the right place on the csv. Over half of the review images were missing. Every review imported as being from an "unverified" customer, so I had to go through and verify 500+ reviews.

There was an empty field for a review heading, so the reviews looked incomplete--(all my reviews had headings but I was told to take that column out, as their app didn't allow space for headings). So I manually added all of the headings.

Not wanting to wait for them to fix it, I added all the missing photos to their respective reviews. Then realized that my review comments---which can't be edited or removed via the dashboard--were showing up with strings of symbols in place of apostrophes, making it look like I don't know how to use punctuation. I asked for the review comments to be edited by their devs and was told they couldn't be changed but they could be removed (this is always customer service emailing, btw...they don't let you communicate with tech support or a developer at any point). So I said sure, just remove them and I'll add them back in later, with proper punctuation. As long as they didn't overwrite any of the updates I'd made the week before, that was fine with me. Customer support said the dev team wouldn't overwrite anything I'd added (photos, verification, review headings).

Before 100% giving them the green light to remove my review comments, I reiterated that I DID NOT WANT THEM TO OVERWRITE MY EDITS. I'd spent a couple of full work days manually updating everything the import either missed or entered wrong.

3 days later, the devs completed the review comment removal and when I checked their work, there were 150+ less reviews showing up in my dashboard. Among the 399 that were there, the ones I manually added photos to now had zero photos. The review headings were missing and there were unverified customers again (they were all verified and I had fixed that!). I realized that what they did was they exported the reivews to a new csv, made some changes and then reimported it without adding new fields for verification status and review headings. So basically their new import overwrote all of my edits. I honestly can't explain how all the images I had added disappeared...

At that point, I told customer support I was going to leave a frank review and uninstall the app, request a refund for the 2 months I paid them ($49/month). They got back to me right away and said they were so sorry and would give me 2 months free, plus the dev team would make everything right. I agreed to give them a second chance but a week later, the work had not been completed yet. When asked, customer service said they were very busy and that it wouldn't be done until the end of April---again, ridiculous. I said this was unacceptable and I wasn't going to wait weeks more for them to fix the mistakes they made (and this was not something I could fix, they make it impossible for you to DIY anything, the overlords have to do it all for you). Again, I let them know I would be uninstalling and leaving this review. I was begged for a 3rd chance and stupidly, I agreed to trust them yet again.

Just checked their "fix" and I see now that there are product reviews showing on the wrong product pages, the wrong images are showing on reviews and I'm still missing half of my review images. I can't believe I was trusting enough to let this go on for almost 3 months.

On top of the gigantic headache the review migration caused (not to mention missing my scheduled launch of our site redesign by 7 weeks because of Growave's tech support incompetence), the Rewards program is a disaster. If you've downloaded this app, be sure to dig deep into Rewards settings, paying special attention to the language used for automated customer messages (the ones triggered by members' actions). Many of them are worded in broken English and some are downright bizarre...lots of incorrect grammar and lack of punctuation, or coming across as totally unprofessional and even unfriendly.

If you're operating in the U.S. and are planning to use any of this program's features, I recommend combing through all the automated messaging to fix errors and make them sound at least a little friendly. If you are migrating reviews, I also recommend adding your reviews--no matter how many you have--manually. Don't let their sunny sales team chirpily talk you into handing that over to their version of the Wizard of Oz, the silly, incompetent fool trying to control everything behind a curtain.
For some reason, it seems impossible to perform a full migration of all reviews with their associated photos intact, despite having your csv perfectly constructed to match the template.

For the record, another weird thing is the only full example name on their csv import template for reviews is...Sasha Gray. Which at first made me laugh but after the hell they've put me through, I think this company is really being run by a bunch of snarky kids who think they're outsmarting everyone. Not only is this app not worth $49/month, I feel like they should pay me for my time and for the last 3 months of lost revenue. Now I'm back to square one, starting over with a different app. Wish me luck.

If you want to use Klaviyo with this app - STAY AWAY! The integration used to be good, but since they redesigned the app, the integration is brutal. The timing dosen't trigger emails through klaviyo. I've been trying to deal with their customer service in Kyrgyzstan for 6 days and I keep getting this message "Please let me clarify this moment with the developers and get back to you!" The first line doesn't have answers for anything. $99.99 a month for a brutal app - STAY AWAY

I'm currently using this app but I don't think I'll be using it for a long time, the inability to customize the rewards page is really limiting. In addition to the fact that it is not possible to have a LOGIN button when loading the page, which makes usability compromised by the user, because to log in he has to click randomly inside the page to see the log in button.
I asked to make this button visible right away, but it seems impossible to implement. I'm not satisfied at all.

In search for a simple refer-a-friend function, I made the mistake of installing Growave. This app is absolute bloatware. It will install all sorts of functionality all over your site. Use with caution as every install has the potential to slow down your site and, unless you're using all functionality, that's by definition a bad outcome. Deleting it required removal from the app itself and from Shopify admin.

terrible customer service and technical support. Cannot resolve a so-called easy problem after a few weeks. time wasting!